Leeke оправдываются

[llsonya]

Leekeworld, обвиненный в плагиате с авторской куклы Püns ( Dust of Dolls) убрал борд в разделе со спорной девочкой Mikhaila (чтоб не обвиняли,аха) , зато повесил процесс лепки тела

унылая простыня

никто и не сомневается, что лики слепили куклу сами, прицепив ей руки от родной мсд, и сделав более реалистичную фигуру ( что явно не пошло на пользу.
но все равно их простыня не объясняет поразительного сходства




интересно, кем они еще вдохновятся, если им сейчас по рогам не надают? Enabi? Lilycat? вокруг всех этих стендов они нарезали круги с фотоаппаратом на выставке в Лионе

@темы: Leeke World

Comments

[Kieran]

Ну, не знаю... Я - полный профан, и сужу с точки зрения профана. Мне кажется, единственное, в чем он совпали - так это в здоровой задниице и животе. И наверное в бедренных шарнирах. Остальное отличается. Однако. Этот их живот - это просто дань определенному образу куклы-толстушки, а шарниры бедренные... я лично не представляю, как их еще можно слепить.
Короче если оставлять копирайты на куклу-толстушку за этим автором из Франции, то получится что кукол-толстушек лепить не сможет больше никто. А ставить копирайт на образ... Лично мне кажется, что глупо.
Конечно, возможно я ошибаюсь.

[OlesyaGavr]

ib.n - согласна)))) и не зря пропиарили!

По сабжу: ИМХО тому, кто хочет и любит Dust, эта кукла ничего не заменит в качестве плагиата. Другая эстетика, даже если отбросить конструктивные недоработки. Потому ИМХО бесполезно отговаривать от покупки поклонников Dust. Отговаривать людей покупать из принципа, потому что это плагиат, - другое дело но это скорее для тех, кто кукол покупает из принципа) а тем, кто покупает чисто по симпатии если она понравится - все равно купят... И будут правы.
Я вот знаю одного безответно влюбленного, который с девушкой мечты объясниться не может, потому что она была замужем за его другом. Она уже и развестись успела ,и другого бойфренда найти - а этот все страдает. Из принципа. Как же, она ж его другом меченая!...

[*Gepard*]

кто хочет и любит Dust, эта кукла ничего не заменит в качестве плагиата

+ 500

Ох ну лики спалились как дети XD


Официальный ответ DD

[Mr.Prince ~bling-bling~]

е-мае! х)) это ж надо так глупо!

[and what?]

ааааа, вот это реальный эпик фейл!XD

[Byakko]

Хочу мастера в кучерявом паричке в отливку. =((( Блин, лучше ж было. >.>

[Suhmat]

У Дастов на блоги выложены так же подробности общения с Ликами. Оригинал

Dear Madam, manager at Leekeworld,

After all the pleasure the Ldoll provided (october 9th and 10th, Lyon, France) as the first french event entirely dedicated to the BJD, the encounters that occurred thanks to this convention, despite all the difficulties the organizers met, we are terribly disappointed as we answer to your email. If you admit that you were at the Ldoll, you never mention the fact that your stall was right next to ours, so we were neighbors during this event.

Repeatedly, members of your staff came to talk with us and stared at what we were displaying on our stall. We remind you of the peculiar infatuation you showed, you insistence to take pictures and the fact that we gave you the business cards you asked from us. You seemed really appreciative of our friend Lillycat’s work too, who shared our stall. Consequently, it’s with stupefaction and not absent dread that, on the 15th of March, we discovered your new doll, which preview was already showing too many similarities with our work.

The day after, as you were posting the remaining pictures, the whole community reacted before us and in such a spectacular way that you couldn’t point out a lack of objectivity on our side.

We really feel betrayed. Your infatuation that we naively took for a sincere and honest esteem of our creation led us to let you take all the pictures you wanted. The very nature of a convention being to allow encounters, discoveries and sharing our experiences, we can’t let these events become a living opportunity for some malevolent companies to steal, copy or scavenge the creations of young and innocent artists.

Our current standing is justified by the very nature of your plagiarism. Your copy is so obvious and striking that in addition to hurting us, it directly jeopardize our future. In fact, we are two young artists, our BJD are handmade, which represents, as you should know, a lot of personal and financial investment. Our social position makes our creations more expensive and rarer than products made by companies such as yours. Your competition on a similar product allows you to sell a more affordable production, which endanger directly and irremediably our commercial prospects. But the most important point is the respect of the right of individual property. This right is and must remain universal. To not stand up for it would mean denying creation in its whole, furthermore any cultural representation of a country or a nation.

You took the initiative (on march 15th, 2011) to send us an email with breathtaking content. You’re developing arguments that the pictures you add clearly contradict. Here are the highlights :


You wrote : » I have update Leeke’s new doll today, and get some emails from another customers.
And I found your website. »

Let us question you honesty on that point : you knew of our flickr gallery since the Ldoll, as you had our business cards in your possession, given during the convention. We remind you that you even asked us where you could get more infos, and we showed you the address on our card.


You wrote : “This doll based M type gentle girl body”

This is untrue. You should use more specific terms : The M type gentle girl body and the art body are of the same size and are sculpted by the same person. Contrariwise, the art body is based on the body of our doll, called Püns. You used the gentle body arms and the same knee joint, as if adding some differences to your plagiarism would be sufficient to cover it.

You wrote : “Customers said it’s copy doll from your doll. How do you think about this situation ?”

As we underlined it before, you can’t deny our good will and objectivity, considering the support the community gives us through its many interventions, as they decided to denounce their discovery even before we stepped in.

How do you explain that so many people recognize the plagiarism in your new doll, notice it and, furthermore, name the original doll and even publicly express their denunciation before the legitimate owners could express themselves? This isn’t simply a unilateral finding but an obvious general finding.

Just face it: your new doll strictly has a body copied from our doll, Püns. The general shape of the torso is the same. The hips and pelvis are strictly identical, to the shape of the navel! And suddenly you use the same inverted joints on the thighs, which is a new and sudden conception on you line of dolls. The thighs have the same shape as our creation, the calves alone are a bit slender. Event to the beige resin color, the copy is obvious. Regarding the head of your doll, we’ll let our friend, Enaibi, the other french artist concerned by your plagiarism (also present at the Ldoll) step in.


You wrote : « I found your doll is 26cm and our doll is 40cm. »

We wouldn’t dare accusing you of recasting our doll. We simply speak of a strict copy. Whatever the size is, it’s the whole outline which is plagiarized, even in the placing of certain joints. The possible interpretations and translations of body outlines on dolls willingly stylized are infinite. This multiplicity also applies to pear-shaped body, and to see you going down to such an excess of conformity with our creation could only make us suspicious regarding your sincerity. On the contrary, we think that you willingly brought some personal touch (on the hands, the knees with the inverted cut, the slender calves) only to “muddy the waters”. But as we already reported it, no one was fooled.

You wrote : « But the designs are similar. So I have to do something for this issue. »

We notice that you agree on the fact that the two bodies are similar and you want to do something. Does that mean that you recognize the huge similarity?

You wrote : « I am asking to our doll designer for this doll. She told she didn’t know about your website. »

How could we trust you when we discover on one of the picture you sent us, a printed copy of our Püns (picture that you can find on our website), lays on the table next to your prototype.

The most obvious detail is the knee joint on the printed picture, which is reversed compared to your prototype, and thus in the same cut as on our doll.

You wrote : « If you think this doll is copy your doll, what situation from Leekeworld? Leeke staffs are shocked see your doll and customers email.

Our outfits designers, faceup artist, photographer and doll designers. Everybody working hard for project doll. » Due to the standing of your company you probably have at disposal some other financial means to generate benefits. We’ve been working for several years for this doll to be born. So we won’t pity anyone, but determine our respective positions. It’s not a matter of who’s miserable or not, but who’s respectful or not.

You wrote : « So what should have to do for this doll? I need your opinion. Because it’s very similar design and customers need answers. You are the first one who designed the doll. So if you need commission, I will think about that. »

Unquestionably, we are the original creators of the model and its proportions. Seeing the contradictory arguments your giving, it seems to us very inappropriate for you to pretend that this situation is fortuitous, when you communicate on pictures from your workshop in wich we can clearly see pictures of our doll next to your prototype, during its sculpting. You will understand that we don’t ask for a financial counterpart as a compensation for your mistake.

You wrote : « Please don’t think bad side and feel bad about Leeke doll. Please think good side. Leeke staffs didn’t copy your doll. You can see the pictures as Gentle girl body. »

Far be it from us to emit a good or bad opinion about your company or the dolls you produce. Nevertheless in this problem, concerning us despite our own will, we have to admit that your posture plays against you. Willingly, you take away from us five years of hard work and personal investment. Any supplication could only discredit your speech.

You wrote : « I want to resolve this problem with you for good both of us. Please kindly, send any opinion for both of us you and Leeke. »

The only reasonable solution, fast and efficient to put an end to this situation, is to withdraw definitely and without any condition your Art Body from sale, as it is presently realized. If you try to add further modification to the actual mold (?) in attempt to calm things down, you would not get our approval anyway. On the contrary, if you consider using the name Art Body for another original creation from your artists, we wouldn’t interpose with it.

[Suhmat]

и еще кусочек

On the morning of the 16th of March, you posted on your website some documents illustrating the conception of your doll. That is when you publicly showed the picture in which we can see the legs of our dolls on the table… And you added a picture where we can see, on the left, the same sheet with printed pictures. We can also see the legs of our Püns, from the same picture than before and an original doll design from Lillycat (Cerisedoll), the French artist sharing our stall during the LDoll festival.

On the same day, at 15h17, you sent us a second email asking us to answer quickly. We see in this hurry a strategy to clear from any doubt by insisting bluntly to cause the defender to stumble.

You wrote : « If you see that URL, you will know. We didn’t copy your doll body. But end of making doll, the doll body look similar with your doll body. »

Once more, you produce two shots clearly showing that you had in your possession some pictures of our dolls in the workshop were the prototype of your Art Body was made. You perfectly know about our creations and everything shows evidence that you intentionally used it to plagiarize them.

You wrote : « A plan of Mikhaila, we planed she will sell from next monday in Korea time. ( It was planed last month ) »

To be clear: we want the Art Body to be taken off the shelves now. Such a case is not new to you. As a matter of fact, in 2009, the case of plagiarism on the Russian photographer Oleg DOU’s work led you to renounce to sell your doll Milch.

Given the seriousness of the situation, in case you wouldn’t accept our request, we can’t guarantee what is to be expected.

Given the context, we inform you that all the information you gave us have been forwarded to the administrators of Den of Angels and Materiel Celeste, and that this message will be displayed publicly on internet.

[Secret Friend]

Ай, а можно краткий перевод хоть чего-нибудь? У меня с английским туго, а интересно же.(

[Asuka]

АААА XDDD
Какие фото! Давно так не смеялась
Теперь уже не сомневаюсь, что при лепке тини-тельца на их столе так же лежали фотографии шугарбейл

[Kieran]

Я один ничего не понял? О_о
Asuka Честно, я не понимаю, чем именно они оправдались(

[Suhmat]

Ну что? продолжим веселиться?

отсюда

[Secret Friend]

Боже, ну смешно же

[Byakko]

Но лике я всё равно люблю за их парики и обувь.

[Mr.Prince ~bling-bling~]

Suhmat
феерично, черт побери! 0_0

[Suhmat]

Кста, там продолжили объединять коллективный разум.

Тизер

не крашенное. смотрим на жезл и бабочко-крылья

И народ тут же припомнил вчерашнее тепло

толстые картинки

[karmadekarmade]

омг вот это детский сад о_о

[Suhmat]

Byakko не за смекалку их тоже надо уважить

[полярный рысёнок]

а чиво ето за вторая фигурка с лягухой? я такую же хочу>_<

[Suhmat]

няшный рысёнок ищите эту лягуху в тридесятом царстве в тридясетом государстве. То есть тут

[полярный рысёнок]

Suhmat cпc! а сколько она стоит, я не могу понять? >_<

[Byakko]

Suhmat, вот со смекалкой как раз проблемы на самом деле. =) Я уже писала, что заимствовать надо умеючи, а лике ну вот совсем не умеют, и однажды спалившись, когда полинета уже в картинках, начинают как-то совсем уж смешно заметать следы.

[and what?]

няшный рысёнок,это Mercedes из Odin Sphere тут уже распродана, надо искать по другим местам,но там же есть другая версия тык

[Suhmat]

Лиликэт пригрозила Ликам судебным разбирательством потому что ее эскизы подлежат закону об авторском праве и не могут быть использованы ни в каком виде для коммерческих работ без согласия автора - на фликре